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netivot: На форуме сайта Rainbowfanclan.com опубликованы выдержки из готовящейся издателями бывшего официального фэнзина (ныне рассорившимися с менеджментом и обвиняющими его во всех бедах с такой же настойчивостью, с какой некоторые российские поклонники БН ищут во всех происках руку К-300) книги. [quote]Now and Then: A Family Tree We have all read countless interviews that have been conducted with Candice Night over the years, all of which seem to be rather repetitive and shine very little light on her past other than bits of information relating to her relationship of the past twenty years with Ritchie Blackmore. While much has been documented through the years regarding Ritchie’s former marriages, and his extended family, little information has been made available about Candice’s. So in the light of her recent marriage to Ritchie Blackmore on October 5th 2008, I felt it was a good time to explore her ancestral family tree. This article features small bits and pieces of information relating to Candice, her, parents, their parents, her siblings, and some extended family members. I have explored this side of the family tree as far back as the early 1800’s at the time of writing this study. I have added quotes from actual family members, and or stories as they have been provided through the genealogical search. So with that, I think it is best to start out with some basic information about the faerie queen herself, Candice. The Tree as it is Now. The Immediate Family Candice Lauren Isralow (AKA Candice Night) was born on the 8th of May 1971 in Hauppague, NY. She attended New York Tech in Old Westbury NY, where she studied communications before getting a job at a local radio station and subsequently meeting Ritchie Blackmore at a local charity soccer game. Newsday.com reported their wedding announcement on November 23rd 2008 and reads as follows; Candice Isralow and Richard Blackmore were married Oct. 5 at Castle on the Hudson in Tarrytown, with a reception following. She is a musician and lead vocalist for the band Blackmore's Night and is the daughter of Carole and Calvin Isralow of Hauppauge. The bridegroom is a guitarist for the band Blackmore's Night and works with Blackmore Productions and is the son of the late Violet and Louis John Blackmore. The bride attended New York Institute of Technology, where she studied communications. The groom attended Heston Community School in Heston, England. They live in Port Jefferson. Candice is the daughter of Calvin Authur Isralow and Carole Lynn Gross (AKA Carole Stevens) both from New York. Her Father was born on the 7th of November 1937. He received his education and graduated from Pace University in New York. Calvin furthered his education and graduated from M J Lewi college of Podiatry in 1965. He has practiced his long- standing career in NY and has received praise for his work. One patient has been quoted as saying, “For years I was going to podiatrists that had no idea what they were doing. My feet were killing me for various reasons and no one could ever do more than provide temporary relief. Dr Isralow, however, was amazing. He has a refreshing and invigorating personality that makes it feel like you are visiting a friend and not going to the dreaded foot doctor. And the best part is, his treatments have lasting effects! He charges very reasonable prices, which makes him the find of all finds. He also did house calls to my mother when no other doctor would”. Calvin would marry Carole Lynn Gross on the 27th of March 1965 (the same year he graduated from school). Carole was born the 15th of July 1944 (one year, three months, and a day shy of her recent son in law Ritchie Blackmore) and was educated and graduated from Queens College, NY with AA, followed by a BA and then an MA of Science. Before becoming the manager for Blackmore’s Night, Carole has been quoted as saying “I was a teacher in elementary, middle, and high school. I also worked with learning disabled children, disadvantaged children, and ELS (English as a second language to students who came from foreign countries and couldn’t speak English). In high school, I taught math, social studies, and English; and I was also a professor at St. John’s University and SUNY. I was also raising a family in the desolate suburbs of Long Island”. When she is not working she enjoys watching sunsets, taking walks along the beach, listening to birds sing, and spending time with her children. For the few whom don’t know, Carole has more than “one child”. In fact, she has three with Candice leading the pact age wise. Two years, four months, and five days shy of Candice, her brother Jarett Steven Isralow was born on September the 3rd 1973.“When we were kids, candy would parade around the house belting out songs at the top of her lungs. Even though her songs (and more importantly her voice) were beautiful, it so distracted me from my computer games that I begged her to stop”. Jarett received his education and graduated from Miami University in Ohio. He also holds an MA from the University of N.C and currently works as a senior VP. “I was privileged to hear the first song Ritchie and Candice created, and after that song, I couldn’t wait to hear another”. Jarett has also transcribed stories that were told to him from Ritchie, Candice, and Carole, and wrote the bands first book, “The Next Stage” under the pseudonym name (that has family history written all over it to the observant eye) “Doc Calvinson” (Doctor, Calvin’s, Son). Cleaver if I may say so myself! Jarett was married on November 9th 2008 to his long time sweet heart Jody Siegel. Born October 16th 1978, Suzanne Eve Isralow is the youngest of the children. Suzanne was educated and graduated with a BS from Virginia Poly Tech and currently works as an underwriter. “I can recall having problems going to sleep and an angel’s sweet voice soothing my worries until I was in dreamland. My sister may be an icon to some or an idol to others, but to me she’s my sister. Growing up she was a woman I admired, and twenty years later, I admire her even more”. Suzanne was one of Candice’s five brides maids at her recent wedding and is the only family member that remains single. For those who might be unfamiliar; Virginia Tech is the school that on April 16th 2007, 32 people were killed and remains the deadliest shooting incident by a single gunman in United States history, on or off a school campus. Suzanne was not a student at the time of this horrific event. Part 2 The Tree as it was Then. The Descendants Now that we have covered Candice’s immediate family, (minus her new addition Ritchie that is) it is time to take a deeper look into the generational pool. Please note that while every attempt was made to gain generational information from her father’s side, nothing was readily available to me at the time of this article, therefore, this section will focus on her mothers (Carole) family roots. This section will start with her (Carole) mother’s side followed by her father’s. I have included as much information that was available to me on each family member. Tillie Miller was born on February 1st 1906 and was married to Abraham Richard Gross on December 24th 1935. Tillie’s husband Abraham was one of eight children. Abraham was born on November 7th 1903 in Russia. After his family immigrated to the United States, Abraham attended a one- room schoolhouse in New Jersey where he obtained his GED. He went on to Brooklyn NY, Polytechnic Institute where he received a BS in chemistry. He married Tillie on December 24th 1935. Tillie and Abraham had two children, a girl named Carole Lynn, and their son who was named Norman Lee. Norman received a BBA degree in Production Management as well as an MBA in Computer Methodology from Baruch College of the City University of New York. Norman has three children from two separate marriages. Abraham passed away on December 12th 1979 at the age of 76 followed by his wife Tillie on Feruary 24th 1984 at the age of 78. Very little is known about Tillie’s fathers and mother other then their names. Her father’s name is Nathan Miller, and mother’s Yetta. There is no known last name for Yetta. Due to the lack of historical records from the period, all that is known is that they were married and both born before Feruary 1906. However, there is a wealth of information relating to Abraham’s family. Abraham’s mother Kalie Goldie Kushner was born in 1866 at Bialystok, Grodno, Russia. She was married to Shmuel Beryl Gross who was born in 1862 at Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia. Shmuel Beryl Gross was one of the six children of Avram Reuven Gross and Frume Shane Greenspan. He worked as a blacksmith in the town of Trestinye in what, at that time, was Russia but now is Poland. Shmuel married Kalie Kushner who was one of the ten children of Boruch Kushner and his third wife, Itke Kalinsky. Shmuel, like his father, was a very devout man. Shmuel and Kalie went to work together in the morning and their daughter, Sadie, was left in charge of the household with a list of chores to do. Apparently, Sadie was not too happy about this and would stand in the doorway and yell: "I won't do it! I won't do it!" until her parents were out of sight, and then she'd go on to take care of the younger children and the chores. A number of the siblings and cousins of Shmuel and Kalie had gone to the United States to escape the pogroms and to make a better life for their children. They settled in New York, Chicago, Pittsburgh and St. Paul. Shmuel came to the United States for about two years, worked as a presser in a clothing factory and saved his money. He went back to Trestinye to send the rest of his family to the USA. The two oldest children, Alex and Sadie, came over first. It is possible that they met their future spouses on the ship coming here. Shmuel wanted to come back by himself again, but Kalie waid that they must all go together. Kalie seemed to be the type of woman that everyone loved. For the first few years after they arrived in the USA, the family lived on East Seventh Street in Manhattan. Then Shmuel bought a piece of land outside of Chatsworth, NJ. Shmuel, Katie and their younger children (Janet and Richard) moved to Chatsworth and stayed as boarders in the town while a house was built and a chicken farm was started. While living on the farm, Janet and Richard [Dick] went to school in the one-room schoolhouse which was a few miles down the road. Of course they walked to school every day. One evening, Janet and Kalie went to visit a neighbor. It was a moonless and starless night. In order to find her way home, Kalie went down on her hands and knees feeling the road so that they wouldn't wander off and get lost. She knew where to turn off the main road to follow the side road to their house because there was a large chestnut tree at that point. The mother and daughter couldn't see any light from the house because the only illumination was from oil lamps and the fireplace and Dick had taken the lamps over to the fireplace so he could read! After the farm, the family moved to Williamsburg. It was while visiting a friend of Sadye Kurtz's cousin, Jessie, that Kalie first saw Middle Village. They had taken the trolley line from Williamsburg to this farmlike area and Kalie fell in love with Middle Village. Soon afterward, the family bought a house on Hinman Street (later called 75th Street). Shmuel also bought the two lots alongside the house so that he had enough land to plant vegetables and garden. There was a big synagogue almost directly across the street from the Gross' house. Shmuel had a falling out with the members of the congregation there. Apparently they were not sufficiently orthodox in their worship to suit him, so he [with some other people who felt the same way] founded a new synagogue a few blocks away on Wayne Street. After Kalie's death, Shmuel Beryl Gross remarried. Apparently he and his new wife thought the other was rich. They were both wrong. In 1939, Shmuel Beryl moved to Israel (which was called Palestine at the time) where he lived out the balance of his life. His children maintained correspondence with him, especially Sadie and Samuel. He, in turn, sent oranges and other fruit at holiday times. After WWII, he lived with his nephew and niece, Shlomo and Chana Gross. He died in 1956 at the age of 94. Very little information is known about Shmuel’s parents Frume Greenspan and Avram Gross other than they where both born at Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia. But a good amount of text exists about Shmuel’s wife Kalie’s parents Boruch Kushner and Itkeh Kalinsky. Boruch Kushner was born in 1820 at Bialystok, Grodno, Russia. There is a story handed down in the GROSS/KUSHNER family which tells of an ancestral grandfather who was the equivalent of the traveling troubador of Spain or the Minstrel of England. In the Jewish communities of Russia this person was called a “BADCHAN”, which is the Yiddish word describing this kind of work. One should also say that this was not a common talent. It was the unusual man who could travel from small village to village, gathering news and presenting it in his own original rhyme, story and song. The badchan also entertained at important celebrations like weddings and bar-mitzvahs. Sometimes he sang along with the musicians who would appear for special occasions, but mostly, he was on his own. He was a very important person whose appearances were looked forward to by the tiny communities he visited. So, in our family on the Kushner side, there is the singing actor, story-teller and entertainer known as Boruch the Badchan. This story about Boruch der Badchen was told to me in Yiddish by Sadie Gross. I have translated it and written it in the best English I know. We pass this bit of family history on to our descendants so that everyone may remember this remarkable and talented man and his wife, Itke. The family of Boruch Kushner and Itke Kalinsky lived in the shtetl of Trestinye, County of Bialystok, State of Grodno, in Czarist Russia. In 1860 Boruch was about forty years old and his wife, Itke, about ten years younger. Boruch der Badchen was a very talented entertainer who was well known and much in demand in all of the towns surrounding Trestinye. He wrote poetry, composed melodies, wrote sad stories as well as happy ones to cheer those who came to celebrate weddings. He was rewarded with a sum of cash which would in today’s money amount to about five dollars. It was, of course, paid in rubles. Boruch was also revered in his synagogue where he led the services on the Sabbath and on special holidays when he served as a lay cantor. This was always without compensation. At the time of this story, Boruch was married to his third wife, Itke. His first wife died after bearing two children. His second wife bore two children and then they were divorced. Itke had already borne five more of Boruch’s children, making nine in all whom she was caring for. Boruch was always in demand by the surrounding communities and this story starts when he was returning home from a town wedding. It was almost dawn and Boruch realized that before he could rest and sleep after his night’s work, he had to lead his cow to pasture. Perhaps he had too much to drink during the festivities, because instead of going home, he walked into the woods not noticing that he was walking in the wrong direction. He became bewildered as he was not getting near home. He kept walking further into the woods which were so thick and tall that one could hardly see the sky. He couldn’t see a path or a road which would lead him to a farm or a village. He walked all day and all night and realized that he was completely lost. For three days he walked aimlessly in the woods. Each morning he called for help, but there was no answer from anyone. On the second day, when he didn’t come home, the entire population of Trestinye was aroused and some of the men went out on horseback to look for him. They traveled in many directions, calling him by name, but there was no reply. The people of the town who knew him well didn’t give up. For many days they walked in groups, looking for Boruch der Badchen. He had become exhausted for he had no food. There was plenty of water. On the fourth day he decided to stop wandering and find a place to rest. In a swampy area he found a big tree that was partly cut down. He stepped on it and made his resting place there. In his usual fashion he prayed morning and evening and counted the days as they passed. He continued to shout, but his voice grew much weaker. He was too weak to move on and decided that the tree was a good place to avoid all pests and animals. His feet were bloody and swollen and he tore some of his clothing to cover the wounds on his feet. He hung his high boots on the tree so that if someone passed by he would know that a man had succumbed on this spot. Although there were times he heard dogs barking, nobody came close enough to hear his weakened calls for help. Meanwhile, the entire area and surrounding towns were alarmed and the story spread although there were no telephones or radios in existence in those days. Everyone knew that a certain well-known Jew went to lead his cow to pasture and disappeared. The peasants were all illiterate, God-fearing Christians who believed that a devil had gotten into this man who couldn’t be found They were skeptical about finding him, but most of them kept an eye out for him when they went to get their animals from pasture. It took five more days before one man admitted that he thought he heard a weak call from a moaning human being. The peasant was sure that it was the voice of Boruch, the lost man that everyone was looking for, but he doubted that Boruch was alive, and therefore it had to be a ghost that he heard. The man’s dog barked and Boruch called out, but although this happened a few times, the peasant was convinced that Boruch was dead. How was it possible for a man to be alive after eight days lost in the woods? He was sure it was a ghost he heard and he was afraid to walk in the direction of where he heard the voice. He did not see a man there, he just heard that voice. The peasant went to the village of Strenkove where Itke’s sister kept an Inn. There he told another man about what he heard in the woods when he went to look for his horses and that he was sure it was the voice of Boruch’s ghost. The chief constable of the area who was also having a drink in the bar observed the two men whispering together and decided to ask what was going on. Did they know something about the disappearance of Boruch der Badchen? They denied knowing anything and the constable warned them that if they didn’t tell the truth they would be arrested for murdering Boruch. The peasant finally confessed that he heard a ghost moaning. “It must be a ghost, not a human being, because it is impossible that after nine days the man should still be alive”, he said. The constable organized a group of men to go to the exact area where the peasant heard the moaning. The woods were so thick and swampy that they couldn’t walk any further so they chopped down branches from the trees and made a path. Finally, they reached the spot where Boruch was sitting on the tree. He heard them coming and he stood up so they could see him. He was in a horrible condition; his feet were covered by worms and insects. The men took off their clothing, covered him and carried him to the village of Strenkove to the home of his sister-in -law who owned the Inn. A man was immediately sent by horse to the family in Trestinye to notify Itke that Boruch was found alive. After Itke and one of the children came to see that the skeleton of a man who could barely talk was really Boruch, he was taken back to his home by horse and wagon where he was fed by teaspoon, a little bit at a time. Boruch had once had a strong body and mind and he was determined that he had to recover fully. He and Itke had eight more children after his two- year recuperation. He composed many songs about his time being lost in the woods. He never played an instrument, but the people who heard his music loved listening to him. Boruch died in 1895, 35 years after being lost in the woods. He was 75 years old. Itke refused to emigrate to the United States where most of her family had gone. She died in 1920 after the first World War. It is said that she died of starvation. Part 3 The Gross / Isralow Family Tree Carols Great, Great Grandmother – Itkeh Kalinsky (fathers side) DOB: 1828 DOD 1920 Carols Great, Great Grandfather – Boruch Kushner (fathers side) DOB: 1820 DOD 1895 Carol’s Great Grandfather – Frume Shane Greenspan (fathers side) was born at Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia DOB & DOD NA Carols Great Grandmother – Avram Reuven Gross (fathers side) was born at Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia DOD & DOD NA Carol’s Grandfather – Nathan Miller (Mothers side) Born before Feb 1st 1906 – D: ? Carol’s Grandmother – Yetta (Mothers side) Born before Feb 1st 1906 – D: ? Carole’s Grandfather – Shmuel Beryl Gross (Fathers side) Born 1862-1956 Carol’s Grandmother – Kalie Goldie Kushner (Fathers side) DOB: 1866 DOD 1935 Carole’s Father – Abraham Richard Gross - DOB: 11/7/1903 -DOD: 12/12/79 Carole’s Mother – Tillie Miller - DOB: 2/1/1906 - DOD: 2/24/1984 Carols Brother – Norman Lee Gross - DOB: 9/17/1940 Carol’s husband - Calvin Authur Isralow – DOB: 11/7/37 Carole Lynn Gross (Isralow) – DOB: 7/15/44 Carol’s Children: Candice Lauren Isralow – DOB: 5/8/71 Jarett Steven Isralow – DOB: 9/3/73 Suzanne Eve Isralow – DOB: 10/16/78 Extended notes: Kalie Goldie Kushner (wife of Shmuel Beryl Gross) apparently had eight children, but only seven are listed in the records (Sadie Masha, Alex, Samuel, Ida, Benjamin, Abraham, and Frieda Janet). This article noted that Abraham was one of eight children. Kalie’s father Boruch Kushner had ten children. One (Kalie) by his first marriage to Itkeh, and nine from his second marriage (Ester, Sarah, Shainy, Zelda, Abram, Zelig Barnet, Shlomo Itchie, Harucher, Eve (Cheva). Kalies husband Shmuel’s father had six children, (Shmuel Beryl, Avram, Sara Rifke, Marsha, Pearl, & David Laib). Carol’s brother Norman has three children, Jennifer Beth from his from his first marriage and Katherine Olaya & Alexandra Mille from his second marriage. Acknowledgements: The Census Data Base for NC PA, Newsday, Candice Night dot com, City Search, Jewish Gen Resources, Black Night, Extra special thanks to our friends at the searchable genealogy data base for the historical text and pictures. [/quote] У ребят судя по всему полно свободного вемени, я лично снимаю перед ними шляпу. С учётом их дотошности мне поонравилась следующая фраза: [quote]The actual book will have the same type of info on Ritchie's side. [/quote]

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KaGE: netivot пишет: Candice Lauren Isralow – DOB: 5/8/71 Jarett Steven Isralow – DOB: 9/3/73 Suzanne Eve Isralow – DOB: 10/16/78 Может я чего не понимаю.. а почему отчества разные?

netivot: Это вторые имена - second names Отчества в английском языке не используются

KaGE: netivot пишет: Это вторые имена - second names Отчества в английском языке не используются Не знал, что англичане nickname от рождения получают Netivot, объясни темным когда эти "вторые имена" используются и с какой целью?


netivot: Из интернета: В настоящее время в Соединенных Штатах Америки наряду с двучленной моделью, состоящей из личного, или индивидуаль-ного, имени и фамилии, или фамильного имени (англ. surname, family name, last name), все чаще встречается трехчленная AM: "два личных имени (или индивидуальное имя + среднее имя) + фамилия". В XVII—XVIII вв. на территории Северной Америки лица с английскими фамилиями обыкновенно имели лишь одно личное имя. Современная трехименная модель установилась в США лишь к середине XIX в. Второе личное, или среднее, имя, как правило, дают в честь кого-либо из родственников, выдающихся личностей, исторических событий, по названиям местности и т. п. Структура ИИ|Ф ("первое личное имя + второе личное имя + фамилия") наиболее распространена в печати (или в письменной форме); встречаются ее следующие варианты: (1) вместо первого имени выступает лишь заглавная инициальная буква (Н. Margaret Webb); (2) первое имя пишется полностью, а второе представлено заглавной инициальной буквой (Dorsey W. Brunner); этот вариант наиболее типичен для американцев; (3) вместо личных имен перед фамилией ставятся лишь инициалы (J. H. Smith). Я взял вторым именем имя отца- типа отчества Ещё есть поветрие превращать во второе имя nickname - типа Пётр KaGE Сидоров

KaGE: netivot, спасибо! Это ж надо таких вещей не знать

netivot: Не за что. С уважением, Майкл Эндрю (в девичестве - Михаил Андреевич).

KaGE: netivot пишет: С уважением, Майкл Эндрю (в девичестве - Михаил Андреевич). Приятно познакомиться! С не меньшим уважением, Алексей KaGE Ветров

Jam Bluse: круто Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia - может кто-нибудь перевести, что это значит? Гугл говорит, что Bialystok это где-то в Польше, Grodno - Белорусия... как это вообще понимать???

minstrel: мне кажется что "Trestinye, Bialystok, Grodno, Russia" это нечто вроде "пос. Болохово Киреевского района Тульской области, Россия" =)) а истрория про Боруча весьма занятная =) прям Робинзон Крузо =)) ЗЫ. да, теперь я верю, что лица еврейской национальности (эмм... стоит с осторожностью писать это на форуме, в иконке которого имеется аббревиатура Jewish Priorate of Francmasons =) знают свою родословную "с древнейших времен до 2009 года" =)))

netivot: minstrel пишет: Боруча Мне кажется - Боруха. minstrel пишет: Jewish Priorate of Francmasons JPF rules! Вот совместным мозговым штурмом и разгадана одна из величайших тайн современности - расшифрована аббревиатура, по сравнению с которой меркнет К-300.

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